Do you think Dumbledore had a Horcux?

2007-04-10 10:57:00 UTC

wicked!!! thankyou thankyou

for giving him a chance to live!

i couldn't believe it when he died!

well done i say!!

good memory too!!

xx

redunicorn

2007-04-09 04:56:42 UTC

No way. Dumbledore would never have a horcrux.

A Horcrux is defined by Rowling as a "receptacle in which a Dark wizard has hidden a fragment of his soul for the purposes of attaining immortality."[1] With part of a wizard's soul thus stored, the wizard becomes immortal so long as the Horcrux remains intact, typically hidden away in a safe location. If the wizard's body is destroyed, part of the soul remains preserved within the Horcrux.[2] However, the destruction of the Horcrux creator's body leaves the wizard in a state of half-life, "lesser than the meanest ghost."[3]. Lord Voldemort was left in this state when his attempted use of a Killing Curse on the infant Harry Potter backfired upon himself.[4] The magic involved in the creation of a horcrux is considered one of the worst of the Dark Arts.

2007-04-09 12:46:19 UTC

Finally an interesting question!!

I don't think he has one but i think he made up something else, because there's no way Snape could have killed him in that very simple way, I mean come on! It's Dumbledore we're talking about here, the only wizard Voldemort is afraid of. Maybe there's something else he could do for not dieing!

It has been some time since I read the 6th book so I don't remember that much, but there's no way Dumbledore can be dead!

anyways, the question here is... Is Harry the last horcrux?

In Harry Potter and the Half-blood Prince, we learned that, to make himself immortal, Lord Voldemort ripped his soul into seven pieces, and created six horcruxes (the seventh piece of his soul still residing in his body). In the course of the book, we find out the specific whereabouts of some of the horcruxes and learn some information about the others.

To recap, this is what we know about the locations of the horcruxes so far:

1. Tom Riddle's diary (destroyed)

2. Marvolo Gaunt's ring (destroyed)

3. Slytherin's locket (presumed destroyed by Regulus Black)

4. Hufflepuff's cup (whereabouts unknown)

5. Nagini the giant snake (Dumbledore's guess)

6. ?

We know that Tom Riddle liked to collect "trophies", so the final Horcrux might be something that belonged to either Rowena Ravenclaw or Godric Gryffindor. But that makes the identity of the sixth horcrux still very unknown.

There is one other possibility for the location of the sixth horcrux that, I must admit, I have been reluctant to consider until very recently. But if you look at the clues, I now think it's a very strong possibility.

It's possible that Harry is the sixth horcrux, and it is physically located in his body at the location of his famous scar.

We learn in the very first Harry Potter book, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, that Harry can speak to snakes. We learn more about this in the next book, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. Harry is a Parseltongue, and this plays a big part in his battle in the book against Tom Riddle and the basilisk, a really big snake.

2007-04-09 07:21:30 UTC

NO! Dumbledore could not have had a Horcux. For several reasons.

1. Making a Horcux is like the top of evil! Dumbledore would never ever, ever make a Horcux. Even if Dumbledore did not want to die he knows that he will one day and he can't stop that. He would not sink down to Voldemorts level and make a Horcux just to defet Voldemort and help Harry. He tells us in one of the books that 'To a organized mind, death is the next great adventure.' Someone who says that would not make a Horcux.

2. Dumbledore is dead. No matter how much ppl say that he is alive JK Rowling has said that he is dead and is sorry to http://www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com becuase the fact is that Dumbledore is dead! I hate is just as much as you do.

3. This ties in to # 1. To pull ones soul apart is such an evil thing and we know 'Tom' split his soul into at least 6 parts. Do we really think that Dumbledore would really do such an evil act? We do not even fully understand how a Horcux is made. Can anyone make one or do you have to be really evil like Voldemort?

Think about these things and you will relize that Dumbledore could not and would not make a Horcux!

2007-04-09 21:36:38 UTC

I don't think that Albus Dumbledore would have made a horcrux when he told Harry that it is Dark magic and he spoke very adamantly to Harry about how evil it was and I don't believe Dumbledore would ever do anything that was remotely evil, He was a good man ........However there was not a lot said about him and how he behaved when he was younger and as to why Voldemort was so afraid of him. So I suppose at one point he could have done a bit of dark magic, grrr I have so much to say on this subject for instance I personally feel that Magic is only Dark if you use it for Evil. Ok I am rambling anyway If He created a Horcrux I think later in life when he became so wise and good that he would have destroyed it because when you think back to the first book Dumbledore told Harry that Death was not such a bad thing when you live your life to the fullest! Death could quite possibly be the next big adventure.ok now I have put in more than my two cents worth. Feedback please!!!?!?!?!

cmrl

2007-04-09 12:40:23 UTC

Really observant,

BUT in Book 5, doesn't Fawkes shield Dumbledore from Voldemorts spell, meaning that that horcrux was destroyed, so when Dumbledore got attacked the second time he would have died once and for all?

But then again, two things wrong with that-

1. Horcrux's are very dark magic- would Dumbledore have made one, or even killed a man in the first place?

2. Fawkes regenerated after the spell--- he is a pheonix after all, so WOULD that mean that the Horcrux was destroyed???

Tis all very confusing stuff :D

Sarey Gamp

2007-04-09 09:46:35 UTC

For Dumbledore to be that premeditating in killing someone makes him seem quite evil. He said himself that it was dark magic. I don't think he killed Grindlewald, JK wrote 'defeated' as opposed to 'killed' for a reason. Dumbledore was always saying there were worst things in life than death. He didn't want to be immortal and certainly wouldn't have sacrificed any part of his soul to be so. Besides JK said he's dead and not coming back so that would rule out him having had a horcrux (unless you're saying someone else destroyed it, which would be very farfetched to say the least).

I don't think he killed anyone. If JK ever revealed that he did she'd have seriously betrayed the character and I doubt she would. It would have made him a total hypocrite for condemning the practice to Harry.

I do think there is a deeper link with Fawkes than we've been led to believe, I don't believe she's just his pet (and his patronus is a phoenix), but as to what that is I think JK will reveal all in Deathly Hallows.

* * Princess * *

2007-04-09 07:35:56 UTC

I have to admit I haven't read book 6 for quite some time but from what I can remember of horcruxes I seriously doubt it. Tearing your soul into pieces in order to make yourself immortal is the most serious form of Dark magic and not something Dumbledore would have been involved with. If he did then we would have to belive that Dumbledore was evil too, which he certainly wasn't. Plus when Voldemort began splitting his soul his physical features began to change and distort. Dumbledore didn't display this symptom. I think we have to accept that Dumbledore will not be around in book 7. It is now time for Harry to prove himself as the true hero of the series, and he cannot do this under Dumbledore's protection.

debergeracvat

2007-04-09 06:21:16 UTC

That's a new thought. It could be possible. And somebody suggested Harry's scar was a Horcrux, now that's a little too much. But you never know with Rowling. And if Dumbly did make a Horcrux, it cannot be Fawkes. Too obvious. Maybe it's the portrait of Phineas Nigellus or something.

Personally, I think Snape's going to turn out to be the good guy after all.

2007-04-09 05:39:07 UTC

Well,maybe yes,and maybe not! Acording to the story ,he hatd such things,and he hated to kill people,nor to part his soul! But if he did,then it would be defenately Fawkes!!!! But there isn't said how big the Horcux must be,so it could be Hogwards itself! Or,his own wand. But if he made Fawkes a Horcux,then why not Harry to be a Horcux? It would be fantastic,for Harry to have the powers of Volonemort and Dumbledore!!!!! I think that nobody wanted for Dumbledore to be killed! And nobody wanted Sirius to be killed,but J.K.Rowling did it,and we shoud just read further!

KB

2007-04-09 04:10:05 UTC

Absolutely not, it's unthinkable. The creation of a horcrux is the most evil of all the dark arts. It is so evil that there is no reference to it anywhere within Hogwarts, either in the library or in classes. Even if Dumbledore did kill Grindlewald when he defeated him, it would not have been an act of murder so his soul would not have split in two and Dumbledore would most certainly not have committed the further act required to make of that piece of soul a horcrux. Apart from anything else he wouldn't want to. Dumbledore was not afraid of death.

2007-04-10 05:11:36 UTC

No definitely not!! Its something to think about but why would he make a horcux if evil witches and wizards feared to face him? And in Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince Dumbledore dies so like!!!

Whoosher

2007-04-09 13:14:15 UTC

No, definitely not. Dumbledore states that you have to commit something very evil, ie murder, to be able to create a horcrux. I don't think that defeating Grindlewald would count as murder, Dumbledore was too upright a character for that!

2007-04-09 09:29:14 UTC

no, off course not!

dumbledore DEAFETED the wizard grindlewald, he did not kill him. killing is the ultimate crime of evil and dumbledore would never comit such a crime, he is way beyond that, he is good, pure of heart and soul and would not damage his soul by being so evil as to kill! and because he did not kill he could not have made a horcrux. and even if he could have done so, he wouldn't. there are some things dumbledore cannot do because he refuses to, like murder and such evil deeds, making horcruxes as well!

besides, j.k. rowling said it herself: "dumbledore is dead and will not do a gandalf"---> he will not come back, he will remain dead. if he did have a horcrux, he would not be dead, but she sais he is, so there's all the proof you need even if you do not believe in dumbledore's pureness of heart and soul. i believe his soul is whole and untarnished, so he did not kill and would never ever have made a horcrux. not even under fear of death!

gymnastics~is~life

2007-04-10 04:18:11 UTC

He isn't a dark wizard, but in an interview with Daniel Radcliffe he said that he saw JK at filming on a day she wasn't planning to be there.

So, he asked her why she was there and she said that she had to get away from the book because Dumbledore was giving her a lot of trouble.

Enea

2007-04-09 07:01:53 UTC

eeerrrrmmm

nooooooo

because if he did have a horcrux then he wouldnt die at the end of book 6. if u remember his spirit left his body. that means that he died. if he had a horcrux he would still be alive, barely but still alive. but JK said that dumbledore would be back in book 7 but in a different way. the pheonix represents rebirth and that shows that dubmledore will be bak, but not in human form.

Hermione

2007-04-09 03:56:10 UTC

Nope I'm sure that he hadn't made one,Dumbledore hates these kinds of works and he's not afraid of death, he hates immortal life, and remember that making a Hocux requires killing some innocent ppl, Dumbledore can never ever kill an innocent person,he's a hero, so he had not made any Horcuxes,

2007-04-09 07:04:11 UTC

No, but Dumbledore is more connected to Fawkes than we all think. Notice how when Fawkes dies flames erupt around his body and he is born again. Remember in Half-Blood Prince when Dumbledore is place on the altar flames erupt around his body and Harry thinks he sees a phoenix fly into the sky...

just something to think about.

rafena 1979

2007-04-10 06:27:18 UTC

No Dumbledore does not have a horux, he is too kind hearted to want to split his soul, even just once. It would make him less of a man than what he is.

If he did have a horux then the books would all be lying that he was killed by Severus Snape as he would'nt be able too as part of his soul would be apart from his body and unable to be destroyed.

scattycat

2007-04-09 16:19:54 UTC

Only when he laid hands on Voldemorts' ring horcrux. No way would he have made one himself, it's made perfectly clear in the 6th book that making a horcrux is just about the most evil thing anyone can do. So definitely no.

vegasqueen1970

2007-04-09 08:15:15 UTC

I think that's a fab idea - I can't believe Dumbledore is dead and won't be back - I'm still not entirely convinced that Snape is a Death Eater either. I can't wait for the next book.

It's amazing how J K Rowling has attracted the imagination of so many people of so many ages - I'm 37 and love the books.

ღ♥ღ latoya

2007-04-09 15:51:57 UTC

No I think he's gone for sure - otherwise the 6th book is defeated. But I do think that Harry is Voldemorts horcrux. Now THAT will be a good ending!

2007-04-09 07:53:03 UTC

No! You remember Slughorn saying that this is the most evil thing, he even didnt want to talk about it...

Dumbledore is a fine man and he could never have a Horcrux, in my opinion.

You never know what J.K.'s up to, anyway.

Mr. Thorax

2007-04-09 11:19:45 UTC

No way. To create a horocrux, one must complete a supreme act of evil (i.e:murder) and Dumbledore would never do something like that. There is a difference between killing someone in cold blood and overcoming evil. JKR has also said that he is gone for good and is not going to "do a gandalf".

He is DEAD.

J-Lu

2007-04-09 10:22:18 UTC

No I don't think so. As others have said you have to tear your soul up to make a horcrux. I think we may still see him again though. Other powerful wizards have returned from the unknown.... like Gandalf for example!

Trillyp

2007-04-09 09:29:09 UTC

I think he must be dead, otherwise his picture would not have appeared in the headmasters office. Maybe he will be giving Harry advice and help from the picture.

I still think Dumbledore was in on the fact that Snape was going to kill him too........I think Snape will be a bit of a hero in the next book.

Roll on July 21st!!!

elliottz

2007-04-09 09:46:11 UTC

Good point!!! Love it! My friend thinks that Harry's scar is a horcrux!! Is this possible, or does the horcrux have to be a non-living organism?

steff m

2007-04-09 12:08:41 UTC

that is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard of because even though he killed that Grindlewald person he was not evil.Voldemort was a evil being that is why he had a horcus but dumbeldore is to nice to have a horcus

Question Seeker

2007-04-09 07:29:01 UTC

Nice observation, you have a great skill in your eyes.

I think that he had a Horcux, it can be. But there can be an error from Rowling, because she could have an idea, later other idea and are different and stuff.

babyblueeye2

2007-04-12 04:44:45 UTC

No because only a dark evil wizard would kill to keep part of his soul in something else and Dumbledore ain't no dark wizard.

Can music save your mortal soul?

2007-04-09 05:44:16 UTC

No remember DD saying that making horcruxes was a dangerous thing it is very dark magic.

It is even more dangerous to make them out of living things.

Lady Punk

2007-04-09 12:58:57 UTC

Your hypothesis isn't bad, but I don't believe that Dumbledore needs at a Horcrux... Dumbledore wasn't bad....

I think that maybe could have in right, but I don't sure.....

2007-04-09 09:05:59 UTC

Horcux-i don't think so but i don't think that it is the end of Dumbledore, he must have planned ahead allready knowing that Snape was a death eater and all that.

findmenowniallhaha

2007-04-09 07:43:58 UTC

Thats a really great idea and i'd love if he could come alive again but i don't think it will happen...JK Rowling wouldnt have Dumbledore invloved in something evil just so he could gain from it

Chris - (CM)²

2007-04-09 07:41:28 UTC

Has anyone considered the fact that dumbledor might become one of the Hogwarts Ghosts?!

He'd still be able to give advice and all that... ? He doesnt necessarily have to come back to life to help harry!

?

2007-04-09 16:35:12 UTC

I reckon DDore had planned/agreed for Snape to kill him if necessary to stop Vdmort. Snape will be a hero. All he has ever done has been to Harry's own good. He's almost like a strict father/relative.

2007-04-09 07:48:33 UTC

Keep in mind what a horcrux is! Dumbledore was not evil! Noooooooooooo, don't say that he would have done that!

beausbreeches

2007-04-10 02:43:54 UTC

I don't agree. Harry is the horcrux to Voldermort - which is why one cannot live without the other. Hence in order to destroy Voldermort for good - Harry has to die.

Pat R

2007-04-09 06:01:57 UTC

Harry,s scar could be a horcrux,thats why he has to die so voldermort cant live.

Thats what im expecting in the next book,its been said 2 people die,and she has also said its the last book,I hope not,but it would make sense.

?

2007-04-09 03:43:30 UTC

Oh my goodness NO. Dumbledore described what it took to make a horcrux and you had to be evil to do it, to tear your soul into pieces. Dumbledore was a good man and could never do that.

Danny

2007-04-09 10:56:12 UTC

no dumbledore wouldn't kill someone.when it says defeat it probably means drained his powers or put him in askaban or used the unbreakable vow.or maybe gave him to The ministry.I can't wait till The 6th film or 7th book comes out

cute_lovable_darling

2007-04-09 08:14:10 UTC

I'm still trying to decide if harry is a horcrux and will have to kill himself for Voldemort to die

FINN

2007-04-10 00:41:09 UTC

oh that is a good thought!!

and i think harry is voldermorts lat horcux and that he will have to die otherwise voldermort will live i also think harry will die in a way that will make him come back to life, maybe through the black veil thing sirius went through, have it all worked out in my head lol

captainblyton

2007-04-09 10:24:41 UTC

he couldn't have died if he had a horcrux, but i like the question.

i cant wait for the seventh book to find out all the answers

Everona97

2007-04-09 06:40:21 UTC

I don't think so, No Way! but I hope for his come back... I don't mind Harry that much as Dumbledore

me

2007-04-09 09:47:36 UTC

but it also says that you have to be evil to divide your sole (make a Horcux)

good point though.....

i think....

Fawkes or the sorting hat or that mirror thing.

2007-04-09 06:30:23 UTC

It's possible

if he did make 1 then he would have done it for some1 like harry'ssake-not for his own gain

if he did he pprobably just wanted to be there to help harry

i hope he does come back he was awesome!!! YAY!

Andromeda Newton™

2007-04-09 08:39:48 UTC

Well its less outlandish than the theory that Harry is a horcrux!

2007-04-09 03:44:18 UTC

hey i think dats great...i was devastated when he was killed...fawkes seems like da perfect horcrux for dumbledore!hopefully ur rite...we'll c how it goes...i'll keep my fingers crossed!

ceilteach_kitten

2007-04-09 07:49:30 UTC

I don't think so either (for the reasons everyone else has said regarding him hating dark magic). But I think that Sirius Black's brother Regalus could be R.A.B.... !

2007-04-09 05:22:49 UTC

I don't think he had one, but have not given up hope that he will re-appear. Check out this site:

http://www.beyondhogwarts.com/harry-potter/articles/dumbledore-is-not-dead.html

Dr Paul D

2007-04-09 07:17:25 UTC

He definitely did not have one. You have to kill someone to have a Horcux.

EC

2007-04-09 07:21:55 UTC

i don't think he did cos jk rowling sad that he's definately gone.. but i'll tell you want i think, harry might he a horcux as he had intend to kill harry to make the last one

2007-04-09 03:43:40 UTC

i dont think so......to make a horcrux you have to take a piece of your soul and i cant see dumbledore making that kind of sacrifice.....he didnt want to be immortal! but have my fingers crossed for him coming back!!!!

spanks_bum

2007-04-09 12:23:37 UTC

yes, he did have a horcux, definately. i remember my father telling me about it on a cold winters day

Bea

2007-04-09 08:24:00 UTC

No, you have to be evil to create Horcruxes

and i doubt DD had half a soul or none at all

2007-04-09 10:41:51 UTC

I don't think he's dead. I think he and Snape set up that whole situation and it will play out in the final book.

RICH And Strong KEVIN

2007-04-09 08:48:36 UTC

No way, If you are talking about Harry Potter!

2007-04-09 03:49:29 UTC

good answers here

one thing for certain---his last words---"Severus, PLEASE" were pretty much a request for Snape to kill him---he was hurtin. Snape will be the hero of HP 7. And, Snape was the hero of HP 6

Mad Professor

2007-04-09 09:39:56 UTC

It's only a book (okay - seven books). You'll find out in a couple of months, anyway.

draytondon

2007-04-09 08:31:06 UTC

I think if he had a Horux, he'd have trouble sitting down.

have you checked his office for a rubber ring?

Erina♣Liszt's Girl

2007-04-09 08:52:21 UTC

I think that this would be great! ....and Fawkes the phoenix actually never dies,right?...

2007-04-09 03:42:28 UTC

I don't think he has one no but if he did how come the phoenix left hogwarts?

2007-04-09 03:42:44 UTC

That's hard to believe

WTamSP

2007-04-09 06:15:53 UTC

it is Fawkes I just love those books

xox_small_sweet_and_clumsy_xox

2007-04-09 09:57:11 UTC

i think he did becaus for some wierd reason i think he was evil anyway but thats just me

TheLizardKing

2007-04-09 10:15:33 UTC

i forget what a Horcux is

Im.not.a.hero

2007-04-09 09:48:31 UTC

No. My friends and I think that it wasn't him, it was actually someone taking the polyjuice potion. Possibly he and Snape changed places (one final sacrifice from Snape proving that he is not evil...)

I dunno. He CANT be dead. HE CANT!!! :-(

Long awaited 1st baby due 01/06/11 after 3 angels

2007-04-09 14:29:21 UTC

Its possialbe but i dont think so

Refti

2007-04-09 07:01:03 UTC

I hope so but it'd be surprised if it was true

2007-04-09 04:00:55 UTC

Sounds possible...

styce

2007-04-10 03:54:49 UTC

yeah, i think its the sorting hat

truth_and_time_tells_all

2007-04-09 08:31:12 UTC

You lost me.

2007-04-10 07:22:38 UTC

Don't know and don't care, never heard of him anyway!

cutesweetyangel

2007-04-09 03:45:26 UTC

well i think ur rite.It might be rite.

2007-04-09 03:42:29 UTC

I think you are right.

crazy_blonde_me

2007-04-09 10:08:35 UTC

no cause if he had 1 he wouldn't of DIED!!!

uk_louis_1986

2007-04-09 12:03:46 UTC

no dont be silly

yahoobloo

2007-04-09 10:53:26 UTC

I give in.

Bud#21

2007-04-09 06:00:36 UTC

This must be a Harry potter thing, what ever happened to the days of Tolkien, or I should say, those days are lost.

lixy

2007-04-10 04:53:59 UTC

it's not real.

Chickenliker

2007-04-11 07:26:32 UTC

NO

Mr Jolly

2007-04-10 04:17:55 UTC

is it catching?

TAAAAAAAADAAAAAAAAAAAA!

2007-04-10 01:45:29 UTC

WTF!

harun b

2007-04-09 12:13:40 UTC

anythink maybe it is good .....thanks

bluemagicuk

2007-04-09 10:31:17 UTC

i don't . . . think . . . i . . . care

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2007-04-09 03:47:14 UTC

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