Question:
i have a problem.. ?
☮♥ michael phelps
2008-05-14 16:36:52 UTC
i have a really good booik idea and i cant wait to write it .. but i cant start books they always sound weird.
im really good when the action parts come and the good parts are there but im horrible at starting and describing people casue i always end up doing something like

her hair was brown and her eyes were blue.her tan skin matched her features perfect..

but its sounds werid
i am descriptve but it never comes out right i always feel like im doing it worng
any tips?

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THANKS SO MUCH :]
Ten answers:
Qmaus
2008-05-14 17:26:37 UTC
Don't worry about it right now. There will come a time when you will need to learn more in order to write the story well, but the biggest issue is WRITE IT. Everybody I network with on writing eventually learns and agrees that if you spend too much time on editing in the beginning or on making everything perfect, you'll never get the story finished.



WRITE FIRST. Even if it comes out crappy. The important thing is to finish off the story. AFTER the story is finished, go back over it and start editing. That's the time to learn the craft and improve your skills. If you start editing too early, you'll be editing forever and never finishing the story because you'll get into "perfectionist" mode.



So here's the order of operations for you...



1. Write the thing, even if your writing skills suck right now. Get it down; get it finished.



2. Learn something new about the craft of writing. There are tons of resources on the web. Take what you learn and edit your finished story to improve it.



3. Repeat step 2 until you're pretty sure you've got something good.



4. Join a PASSWORD PROTECTED writer's workshop. There are several out there. Submit a sample to be critiqued by others. Critique stuff that other people submit, also. Additionally, read critiques that others give to others. This is an important step, because



a) You need to be critiqued/evaluated by strangers. You can't trust the people close to you (friends and family) to evaluate you honestly because they have an emotional investment in their relationship with you. When strangers critique you, you'll get honest opinions and discover the weaknesses that you still need to polish up in order to make the story as good as you can make it. Don't take offense at any negative comments people give; the goal is to learn about the mistakes that you can't find on your own so that your book will be better and more acceptable to a prospective agent and/or publisher.



b) When you give critiques to other people in a workshop, it's more than just "holding up your end of the bargain". You actually learn by helping others the same way that others are helping you. This kinda reminds me of some saying I heard once about how you can learn something well if you study it, learn it twice as well if you question it, but learn it three times as well if you teach it. When you critique somebody else, you are taking the knowledge (even if it's only a little and incomplete) that you've gained and the insight that you've acquired and you're passing it along; essentially "teaching" it. This helps to reinforce what you've learned. Also, if you see mistakes that other people make in their writing, you can learn to more easily identify and correct these things in your own writing.



c) When you read critiques given by others to others, you are completing the full cycle of a writer's workshop. You learn by seeing mistakes that other people point out in stuff that you didn't write. Sometimes this makes it easier to learn about your weaknesses because you have less of an emotional interest in something you didn't write. You can then take advice that was given to somebody else and use it to make your own writing stronger.



5. Once you have polished up your writing skills and edited your book, you have to do some entirely different, yet related, type of learning/homework. YOU NEED TO LEARN THE BUSINESS END OF THE WRITING INDUSTRY. This is an important step that many writer's fail to do and they get ripped off or taken advantage of because they fail to do this. You don't need to be an expert on the industry, but you will need to learn a few things about how agents and publishers work together and how they work with the writer. You'll need to understand that there are more bad agents and bad publishers out there than good ones. You'll need to learn how to identify and avoid the bad ones and indentify and market yourself properly to the good ones. You can get some good resources on this by checking out the links at http://www.sfwa.org and reading the info at http://anotherealm.com/prededitors . Another good resource if you are trying to find out what agents are GOOD agents is to check out the Locus sales spreadsheets compiled by Melinda Goodin. This will basically show you what agents have actually made sales to publishers (that way you know the agents are legitimate and actually making things happen because they have the proper connections). You can access Melinda Goodin's spreadsheets at http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~mgoodin68/locus.htm . Melinda does this work for free and allows anybody to check it out, but you should remember a few things that she notes on her website...



a) She would like for you to sign her guestbook so she can get an idea of how many people are being helped by her work.



b) She would prefer that you don't copy and paste the spreadsheets onto other websites. If you want to share the spreadsheets with other people, just post a link to her website instead, like I did right here. That way, she can look at how many hits her website is getting and get a good idea of how useful the spreadsheets are to people. Her work is a fantastic resource for writers; especially for ones who are just starting out and who are very confused. The more hits her website gets and the more entries she gets in her guestbook, then the more likely she is to continue offering this wonderful free service to people like you and me.



6. Take all the skills and knowledge you have acquired, make sure your book is the best it can be, and start searching for an agent!



Best of luck to you,



~Jamie Stromberg

http://www.myspace.com/Qmaus



EDIT: Address man...I DO agree with you that spelling, grammar, and rhetoric are all incredibly important skills for an aspiring writer to master. The reason I gave you a thumbs down is because I feel that your advice to do so, WHILE IMPORTANT, is premature. I network with a number of writers who are both starting out and already established and even though many of us groan, roll our eyes, and twitch in our seats when we come across poor spelling and overly-descriptive, nauseating passages, the consensus is pretty much unanimous: WRITE FIRST, EDIT LATER. Failure to pay attention to that key aspect carries a heavy risk of over-editing to the point that the story never gets finished in the first place.



EDIT #2: Laurem, you can't always trust spell check to be correct; it has a number of flaws. Also, the grammar check, even when it is "technically correct", will sometimes screw you over; you can't completely trust that either, especially if you're writing non-fiction, where the rules change to a degree. Eventually, you will have to learn and polish these skills.
anonymous
2008-05-14 17:59:52 UTC
Sometimes subtle descriptions like the one you gave are the best. I like some short sweat sentences hidden among longer ones it makes it feel nice. I see this often in one book I'm reading. It almost states the obvious without any real emotion but that way I create my own emotion and it gives it life.



JUST WRITE! Review it later. As long as you get your idea out you can fine tune it later.



Again I personally liked the description you just gave and I could even see that as the perfect lead for the beginning of the book. It draws me in and makes me want more which is exactly what the first few words should do.
Persiphone_Hellecat
2008-05-14 16:45:46 UTC
That is because you are not doing your homework first. You are not doing character studies or plot analysis. Instead, you are relying on a lot of adjectives and description. Have you read Stephen King's On Writing? You really should. Read the section on character description. The old adage is show - not tell. Giving me a running list of a person's features is just boring and "showing".



If you really MUST use those details find a way to work them into the telling mode. For example - in dialogue.



"I love the way your blue eyes stand out against that dark tan," he said as he gently caressed her long, dark hair. "They look like two headlights pointing toward the future."



A little hokey I know, but at least it isn't a laundry list of what a person looks like. That all comes with experience. You have to learn how to manipulate words and information to make it interesting for the reader. And you can only do that after you have done detailed character studies and really fleshed your characters out into living breathing people. When you feel you know your characters as well as your best friends, you are ready to start writing.



Hope that helps. It is a common mistake with new writers. Pax-C
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2016-05-24 06:06:01 UTC
He might try a different type of shaving gel, some of them are designed to help soften up the stubble. Of course that is usually for the shave itself. Over time I would think your skin will become used to the abrasive nature of his chin. A lotion on your skin before making out might help also. Perhaps he could grow a goatee or a beard. Long facial hair does tend to be softer.
all work and no play
2008-05-14 21:59:36 UTC
Everything has to tie into your story. The reason a blunt, boring description is hard to write for you is because it's hard to read for us. It's boring as hell and hard to get through, honestly. Like listening to a police scanner. Mix it with action and scene, work it into a thought. Give bits at a time. It's all about weaving.
anonymous
2008-05-14 16:50:55 UTC
alright well you need to be more detailed and varied. Instead of saying her brown hair and whatnot try something like: her long brown hair fell causually into her icy blue eyes as she ran out of the car. Her tan skin gleamed lightly in the sunlight, exaggerating her already perfect cheeckbones....You really have to write it in ways you would never actually say it. And if you can;t write a beggining, skip it and go right to the parts you're good at and go back to the begginging. p.s. i always find that it helps in the beggining to start with a simple action to introduce your charachter like running out of a car or reading a book or something.
address man
2008-05-14 16:41:00 UTC
You need to work on your grammar and spelling before you even think of taking on the gargantuan task of writing a book.



I'm not trying to be funny or put you down. You really need to look into that.



EDITORS NOTE: To anyone giving me a thumbs down:



"You must crawl before you can walk."



There are so many writers out of work that have these skills that its ridculous to give any other advice before mentioning this.



NOTE TO QMAUS:



Your answer is well thought out and gives great advice. I understand where you're coming from. The last thing I want to do is discourage this youngster from pursuing a writing career or from writing a book.



Regarding "write first, edit later"; I was taught this way and you are on the money but a person still has to be able to spell and construct a sentence to be taken seriously in the business. Its best for her to learn it now, while she's still young.



To the poster, I'm assuming you're young by your writing style.



Best of luck to you.
anonymous
2008-05-14 18:40:47 UTC
You can improve on your descriptions by using metiphors and simalies. Her hair was white as snow and her skin wrinkled like an elephants butt. :) lol you get the idea.
Alice
2008-05-14 16:41:13 UTC
Just write. Don't worry if it sounds good or not. Chances are, your first draft isn't going to be perfect. You can always edit it later.
anonymous
2008-05-14 16:44:11 UTC
Just start writing freely. Get your thoughts together in cause and effects.. it'll happen...


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