Have more than 80,000 people really died of COVID-19 in the UK?

Question

If you test positive for COVID-19 and die within 28 days, you are reported as having died of COVID-19, even if you are hit by a bus. There have also been many reported cases of COVID-19 being listed as people's cause of death, even when there's no evidence that they had it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55605173

Answer 1

The graph clearly says, death from ALL causes within 28 days of a positive Covid test.

That must include accidents. 

Answer 2

What it says on the BBC every night is "This figure includes all deaths within 28 days of a positive Covid test". Logically it SHOULD include the deaths of people run over by a bus but I have no evidence that it actually does.

Answer 3

there have been more than 80,000 in the UK.

Answer 4

Yes - the 80,000+ reported deaths are COVID-related.

COVID will have contributed to them - even if they had other underlying health conditions that put them at greater risk of serious illness. 

Getting hit by a bus is not a COVID-related death. 



Please back up your suggested inconsistencies with links / proof to be taken seriously.

Answer 5

funny isnt it , more than 200,000 dead in america from the covid , really !!!!

Answer 6

No, being hit by a bus doesn't qualify.  



They look at what issues you had, if you would normally have survived them, but died with covid in your body, then covid fatally contributed to your death. 

Answer 7

There is quite a visual difference between dying of Covid-19 and dying from injuries suffered from being hit by a bus. There is visual difference between dying of Covid-19 and dying of pancreatic cancer, bladder, stomach, testicular cancers, lymphomas, heart disease, stoke.



Covid-19 is a contagious pneumatic disease. It kills faster than most cancers can. If you have cancer, your cancer treatments will weaken your body, but if you then get Covid-19, then it is more likely the coronavirus kills you before your cancer does. You die much sooner because the Covid-19 beat your cancer in the race to kill you. Your cancer therapy was merely the secondary cause of your death.



If you have cancer, or breathing problems and do not live in a nursing home, isn't it better to socially isolate, keep your distance from others and wear your PPE?



Isn't it better to do those things even if you are not ill?  I  live in an apartment building in a lower class area. I take public transit. My risk factor is thus greater than the people who own cars and live in detached houses. I keep my distance. Those who think they are immune because they are young ... They are not only my menace, they are their own. The party hearties are the worst Covid-19 carriers and they are among the patients in the intensive care units.



There are not enough ventilators for every patient presenting serious symptoms.



Now be a good troll and move your question from Books and Authors and put it in its relevant category.

Answer 8

No very few have died from Covid, they might have died with Covid, but many died from cancer etc and caught Covid in the hospital. Hospitals get more money if the put Covid on th death certificate.

Answer 9

not MANY PEOPLE Will have happened to have died of something else, you are clutching at straws

Answer 10

Nope. Most probably died from other thing but was labeled covid so the hospitals get more money

Answer 11

I went onto the wards around March, when they were not even testing people who came in to see if they had the disease.  If you didn't have it before you went in to hospital you probably had it later, and when they tested me and moved me onto the covid ward they told me by holding a big cardboard sign up.  Felt pen message: 'You have tested positive for Covid-19'  The nurses talk among themselves and you can hear what they say.  There are reasons why they don't put people with 'other conditions' in the ICU's.  None of them come out.  Yesterday 1,500 people died of this bug in the UK.

Answer 12

Yes, there have been more than 80,000 in the UK.

Answer 13

Right, if there have been 'many reported cases of COVID-19 being listed as cause of death, even wthen there's no evidence that the victims had it' then you will be able to quote at least some of them.

Come on, let's hear them!

Answer 14

At least you had leadership. 350,000 USA

Answer 15

I can't think of a reason HM Government would wish to deliberately mislead us and the world into believing we have the worst Covid death rate in Europe, I don't see how that benefits anyone.



However whilst I don't doubt that the actual Covid death toll is lower than reported for reasons you've gone into already, a figure that doesn't have these flaws in it is the 30'000 people in hospitals right now with Covid.  That number isn't in doubt and so the crisis is clear therefore we must



Stay Home.Protect the NHS.Save Lives

Answer 16

'Is it true or was it on the BBC'.

No there hasn't.  Nowhere near. In fact no one dies of covid. They die of secondary infections, like pneumonia. Something people got before covid.  Likewise the number of cases. A positive test is not the same as case of covid.