Question:
Harry Potter question to those who have read the last bookl!!!?
2011-01-04 20:16:56 UTC
First off I would like to say that Harry Potter is the best book series that has come out in a long time and that I've got Slytherin pride!

Don't you think that it's messed up that Lily married James Potter. James was the reason that Snape called Lily a mudblood. James humiliated Snape in front of everyone and when Lily intervened it humiliated him even more which accidently cause Snape to call her a mudblood. James started the whole damn thing, provoked Snape, bullied Snape and caused Snape and Lily not to be friends anymore and yes Lily still chose James.

WTF? How could she choose someone who caused her to lose her best friend? I understand that Snape called her a mudblood and was partly responcible but he would have never said it if it wasn't for James. The only thing good that came out of Lily marrying Snape was the last name. I really couldn't take a boy called Harry Snape seriously.

Harry Snape and the Deathly Hallows....just sounds wrong. It sounds like some kind of terminal illness or a very creepy body rash.
Twelve answers:
Draco Malfoy™ *Married to Hermione*
2011-01-06 03:29:49 UTC
Well, James being such a jerk is why Lily didn't go out with him until their seventh year. I figured he must have chilled out some.

But the thing you left out was in the memory it shows Snape and Lily talking afterward. You know where Snape says he would have slept outside the Gyrffindor Tower if she wouldn't com out? Lily says that calling her a Mudblood wasn't the only thing. He's been hanging out with kids who are destined to be Death Eaters. James didn't make him have Death Eater friends... It's not all James's fault.
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2011-01-04 22:12:52 UTC
I'll bite. James was a dick and all, but he was not the core reason Snape called Lily a mudblood. Yes, he was provoked by James into snapping at Lily, but it's his belief system as a deatheater made the word mudblood come out instead of her name, or a milder insult. Because he loved Lily, Snape never insulted her background, but he still held something against mudbloods regardless. She was an exception, and she could tell that. Lily fell in love with James because unlike Snape, he was a more lighthearted person on the inside and didn't care what kind of blood people had in them. And despite his adoration for her, she could probably tell Snape was headed down a dark road.
2011-01-04 20:31:49 UTC
Well first off when Harry is talking to Sirius and Lupin about what he saw in the pensive, one of them says (can't remember which one) that Lily started going out with James after 'his head had deflated a bit.'

And Snape had become friends with mugglebirn hating thugs, and in Snapes memories Lily says that Snape calls all muggleborns mudbloods, except herself.

So really, in the end James turned out to be an ok guy, where as Snape became a deatheater. (he only changed when Voldemort was threatening Lily.)
?
2011-01-05 14:41:16 UTC
I always wondered why Lily chose Snape. Snape is the definition of unconditional love. Despite the fact that Lily chose his nemesis, he still loved her. He even defected to the other side (against Voldemort) to save Lily. After a couple decades, he still loves her and protects Harry even if he doesn't like Harry at all. And when he dies, he looks in Harry's eyes because they remind him of Lily.



yeah James was a real jerk but he was popular and had some influence I guess.



I thought it was stupid that a simple insult like "mudblood" drove them apart. I mean, everyone has been insulted by their friends before. And most won't break off their friendship because of something as simple as that.
2011-01-04 20:56:43 UTC
I second what everybody says, plus I have to add that there's the one scene where Lily tells Snape that he's chosen his path and it's one she can't follow - referring to his buddying up to the death eaters. I don't think James was the catalyst; maybe just a supporting role in the last straw. Snape's path down the dark arts had been building up, she would have ended up turning away from him eventually. And James was kinda bigheaded, I don't think Snape's entirely wrong for remembering him as arrogant, but I think he was more along the lines of a fair balance between Malfoy's bullying and Fred & George's pranks. Still basically a good guy underneath it all.
R.I.P. Dobby a Free Elf.
2011-01-04 20:28:35 UTC
Snape said anyway just not in front of Lily plus he was hanging out with kids who prided themselves on being the future death eaters James was a douche but he was still a good person underneath Snape on the other hand was still dark lost soul.
Lyra [and the Future]
2011-01-04 20:23:36 UTC
I don't think it was entirely James that caused her to lose Snape as a friend. Snape was in Slytherin and was influenced by his peers, who were all budding Death Eaters. He was growing up and trying to figure out what it was that *he* thought, and in the process he apparently tried out the Death Eater Method and when James (and Lily, by being friends with James) hurt him, he took it out on Lily in a way that caused *him* to lose *her*. They really lost each other. They both made mistakes. But James's interactions with Snape wasn't James's whole life. James and Lily obviously had classes together, both being in Gryffindor, and their chemistry apparently overcame whatever anger Lily might have felt for James's part in humiliating Snape. But Snape wasn't pristine perfect either.
Tweedle
2011-01-04 22:16:31 UTC
You see, the thing is that James really didn't cause Snape to lose Lily, or Lily to lose Snape. Do you ever remember reading about James in a memory that wasn't Snape's or Voldemort's in the entire series? Every memory we see him in (besides the one where he is being murdered) portrays him as a complete jerk because that's how Snape saw him. I think that James was really just upset that Snape was friends with Lily, that he got good grades, and he also saw him as an easy target to bully.

From the sound of Snape's past, I don't think many people really liked him besides the Slytherins. Who knows? People's opinions of James might have improved because he was, "Teaching Snape a lesson."

We are also continually reminded that in his school days, James was full of himself. But he was still a good guy underneath all of that and he still had true feelings for Lily. He wouldn't have chased her all of those years in school unless he really felt something for her. Snape and Lily wouldn't have stayed friends anyway, because Severus was always running around calling muggleborns mudbloods and he was joining up with all of the wrong people and running around saying he was going to be a death eater and support Voldemort.

They wouldn't have stayed friends anyway, and James became a better person. He had to have become a better person or we wouldn't have heard from all sorts of people throughout the series that he and Lily were good, kind, and honest people. If he hadn't of changed his ways we would have heard about how Lily married beneath her and that it was such a loss that her life was taken from her.

Snape wasn't the best person in the world, we just see him that way now that we know how madly in love with Lily he was. But you have to ask yourself, why would he tell Voldemort about the prophecy he heard? It was obviously referring to the Potters. And when Voldemort said that he was going to murder Harry and his family, Snape only asked him to spare Lily's life. I'm sorry, but that just seems extremely selfish to me. He'd like to save the woman he loved, even though she had a husband who she genuinely loved and cared for, and a son who she carried for nine months and loved more than anything in the world. Snape was a very selfish person and even though he is one of my favorite characters within the whole series, he was just as bad as James, if not worse at times.

I hate to burst your bubble, but I highly doubt that you will find many people who agree with you on this one.

Don't get me wrong though, he did very well after Lily's death by taking care of Harry even though he partially hated him. He was a very loyal man to Dumbledore and he is probably one of the key reasons that Voldemort was able to be brought down. He avenged Lily's death in the end. And he became a wonderful man.

Just don't blame James for everything when the blame CLEARLY falls on Severus' shoulders as well. James really didn't stop them from being friends, it would have happened anyway.
Lily ϟ Evans™
2011-01-04 20:22:43 UTC
It wasn't James' fault Snape lost Lily. She tried to help him, and he used her one insecurity against her, and that's why she never went back to him. James did start it, in a way, but I don't think he realized Lily would have anything to do with it. She stood up for Snape, and he was embarrassed. I know it wasn't his fault, and he didn't really mean it.. but that really was hitting below the belt.
Dark phoenix
2011-01-04 21:44:53 UTC
i totally disagree with you Lily had married the right man instead of marring Snape who was her best friend until he had said that to her and totally messed up their friendship in the process though, James wasn't the one who had screwed up Lily's and Snape's friendship. Snape had his chance with Lily and he had blew it all on his own with his stupid mouth had said and that had screwed his chances totally
2011-01-07 17:21:12 UTC
Yes but, James CHANGED Snape didn't
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