Question:
Three qustions about Voldemort, the Dementors and the Death Eaters?
Nightshade.R6
2007-08-21 11:19:26 UTC
1- By whom were the Dementors sent to Little Whinging in book 5, and why, and why to Harry in particular?
2- Why didn't Voldemort look into Harry's mind to find out where he was in the 7th book?
3- Since ministry officials can detect where people apparate and diapparate to, then why weren't the Death Eaters able to do the same to detect Harry in book 7?
Fourteen answers:
KL
2007-08-21 12:28:58 UTC
1. Dolores Umbridge wanted to have Harry killed so he would stop "causing problems for the minister".



2. Voldemort was afraid of Harry. He never understood why he couldn't possess Harry like he could other people. He never tried to possess Harry again after he tried it in the ministry at the end of book 5. He also was unaware that Harry was able to read his mind when he was angry or excited. He thought he had blocked Harry out. It's one of the many mistakes that Voldemort made because he was so arrogant.

3. I don't believe that it was ever established that the ministry can trace where people apparate to. The reason Harry couldn't be moved from the Dursley's by apparition was because of the Trace on him that would have made the ministry aware of magic being performed at the Dursley's house. It wasn't because the ministry could follow him.
justasking
2007-08-21 11:28:04 UTC
Hi!



1. By this this time Lord Voldemort has started to regain followers, and the dementors are one of these groups. However, this does not necessarily mean that the Dementors are always controlled by Lord Voldemort. This kind of means that the dementors are free to wander away from Azkaban and do as they please, as long as they answer to Voldemort also.

My guess is that Voldemort did sent them to capture Harry. About Dudley, he would have been a consequence for LV nothing more.

EDIT: Wow! I don't remember the Umbridge's confession! That mean toad-faced woman!!!!



2. Because, if you noticed, Harry learned how to close his mind to him. And, of course, LV was way more concentrated in other things, aside of just finding Harry. He wanted him captured, but he was not going to kill him without the Elder wand. Up until the death of Snape, Voldemort was still concentrated in the Elder Wand business more than in just Harry.



3. They could. However, if they apparated at Grimmauld Place, they could not see them. And if they apparated under the invisibility cloak they could not see them either, right?

Of course, at the woods.... must be what you mean.

I think I'll just have to re-read the whole thing over!



Goodluck!
Louise
2007-08-21 11:39:40 UTC
1) Dolores Umbridge sent the Dementors after Harry to get him out of the Ministry of Magic's way.



2) I'm not actually sure, but I think Voldemort was applying Occulemency against Harry so Harry couldn't see his plans as well. He couldn't look into Harry's mind without breaking down his own mental barrier. When Harry did get glimpses it was when Voldemort lost control. Plus, like somebody said before, He was really busy trying to fx his "wand problem" so he could kill Harry. There was no point in having Harry unless he could kill him so...



3) They can't detect an "adult" who is apperating, (or house elves like Dobby =D) but they could catch all under age wizards and wiches (under seventeen years old) because they have the "Trace" on them until age 17... they can't apperate/disapperate without being caught. Harry turned 17, and the trace was lifted.
viciousteddy
2007-08-21 11:39:19 UTC
1. The dementors in HP5 were sent by Umbridge to Little Whinging to harm Harry. The full scale hearing was supposed to discredit Harry in regards to his & Dumbledore's story about Voldemort's return.



2. The last time that Voldemort was inside Harry's mind, he felt so much pain that he had to leave. The remorse and guilt that Harry felt regarding Sirius' death in HP5 were feelings that Voldemort did not understand and did not like feeling. So he stopped entering Harry's mind.



3. Harry wasn't the one apparating. It was Hermione. She was the one that decided where the three of them would end up.
synopsis
2007-08-21 11:31:32 UTC
1. dolores umbridge sent the dementors to little whinging at the opening of ootp. her boss cornelius fudge was trying to get harry into trouble and dolores decided that if he produced a patronus charm to disperse the dementors it would be possible for the ministry to arrest him for underage magic.



2. we don't have a full answer to this question, but the likeliest answer is that voldemort was afraid of opening the link into harry's mind in case harry used it to see where voldemort was. voldemort spends most of book 7 desperately afraid of harry, and in fact harry is able to see into voldemort's mind only when voldemort is distracted by anger, fear or some other strong feeling.



3. the ministry has watches on the floo network and on portakeys, but the only way to know where an apparating wizard is going to is by physically taking hold of them as they disappear (this being a variant of side-along apparition). hermione gets caught this way and is forced into breaking the charm on grimmauld place, but the only way the ministry can track harry is by the taboo on the dark lord's name (which notifies ministry staff whenever anyone utters the name 'voldemort').
knight1192a
2007-08-21 12:18:59 UTC
1. Who was the only know witch or wizard living in Little Whinging? Harry. Ever since Voldemort's return Harry and Dumbledore had been spreading the word that he was back. The Ministry of Magic wanted everyone to think they were safe, that Voldemort wasn't back, so they tried smearing the two who were letting everyone know the truth.



But for Umbridge it was more than merely smearing Harry and Dumbledore's names, it was about maintaining power. Pushing Dumbledore aside would be pretty easy, he'd turned down the job as Minister of Magic on numerous occassions. And he did not witness Voldemort's return. So it could be claimed that he was telling everyone that Voldemort was back as a means to gain power, to become the Minister of Magic by making others think he could protect them better than Fudge and the Ministry.



With Harry, however, things were different. Still underaged he couldn't be after Fudge's job. But he did witness Voldemort's return which made him very dangerous as his testimony could topple Fudge. So in order to maintain her position as the second most important person in Fudge's regime, she sent the dementors to silence Harry for good.



But of course Fudge's regime fell, not because of anything Harry or Dumbledore said but because Fudge and others who worked at the Ministry saw Voldemort had returned. And somehow Umbridge managed to survive the fall.



2. Voldemort was more afraid of letting Harry see into his mind, and afraid to try be in Harry's mind again. He'd been in his mind at the end of book five, it wasn't just Dumbledore who defeated him that night. Though he had Harry's blood in his veins and could thusly touch him, being in his mind was agony for him.



Being in Harry's mind also meant he'd have to open his mind to Harry, which he was afraid would mean Harry could also use to know where he was. Unfortunately he was loosing his own control as he got upset or excited, letting Harry see into his mind and thus giving Harry the needed edge.



3. The Ministry can't detect where people apparate or disapparate to or from. However, they can detect magic used in the presence of an underaged witch or wizard, which includes apparation. The Death Eaters and their people (folks under the imperius curse) in the Ministry could have detected Harry apparating via side-along-apparation at the start of the book because he was underaged and still had the tag on him. But once he turned 17 he became of age and the tag vanished, which then made it impossible for him to be traced when he apparated.
pharrgrrl
2007-08-21 11:25:53 UTC
I know the answer to # 1 is Dolores Umbridge; she says that she sent them near the end of the book, to discredit or get rid of Harry.



# 2, maybe he thought it wasn't that important? He didn't see Harry as a real "threat," so to speak?



And # 3, I don't think they can detect where people apparate & disapparate to ~ that would require mind reading, as the spell isn't spoken aloud. They can detect underage apparation/disapparation because wizards under the age of 17 have a "trace" on them. Harry turned 17 in the beginning of book 7, so his "trace" was removed.
Hypascorpio
2007-08-21 11:27:56 UTC
1. dolores umbridge of the ministry sent the dementors to harry so they could prosecute him for performing underage magic.

2. i'm not 100% sure but i think its because harry would be able 2 see his plans as well.

3. again, i'm not sure but i dont think the ministry can detect apparation- they just know who has licences in the same way that we have driving licences
2007-08-21 12:02:16 UTC
your question-Voldemort, the Dementors and the Death Eaters



my answer- OH MY!

1. Umbridge sent them beccuase She knew he would use magic so he would get expelled.

2.Becuase Voldy was afraid that Harry would see through his.

3.i didn't know they could detect that...
marietta
2016-05-19 04:24:50 UTC
No... you sound like a helpless wannabe Death Eater... Grade A? Flowers are cute? Dark, disturbing person? what House are you in? you are the textbook defintion of Hufflepuff... sure I believe you are a pure-blood (grr... i'm a freaking half-blood) a lot of people in Gryffindor (my House... i turned down Slytherin because I don't like being too evil, I would break some major barriers seeing as I am a half-blood, and my mom wouldn't allow it) are pure-bloods but... all the things you mentioned don't fit... how can you be dark and disturbing if you think flowers are cute? yeah... Crucio is fun to use (i don't care if you tell my mom... i don't like her anyway and my dad doesn't know much about spells) but (no offense) i can't imagine you casting the spell... you draw the Dark Mark on your hand? Scorpius Malfoy does that too and he hasn't been accepted as a death eater (yet... although he might be soon) bottom line is he won't kill you but he won't make you a death eater either.... oh and I would be (actually I am) in the DA...
JakesRosenblum
2007-08-21 11:25:52 UTC
1- It was Umbridge, she wanted Harry in trouble.

2- Because Hermione had all of those magical enchantments around the place. I thought Voldemort could have broken them down. Also he was busy trying to find a way around "The Wand problem"

3- I have no idea, they're dumb?
2007-08-21 11:25:45 UTC
umbridge, she wanted to get harry out of the ministrys way



i dont think voldemort knew how to look into harys mind



thats a good question, i think thats just a gap in the story. maybe it doesnt work quite like how it sounds, maybe they cant detect who apparates where
Ziva
2007-08-22 03:03:08 UTC
1- the dementors were sent by Umbrige, she is absolutley evil and was probably a fan of Voldemort

2-I don't think that voldemort knew there was a connection again.

3-because they can't tell who is apperating/ diapperating just if there is an underage witch or wizard doing it.
Crappy Haircut Girl
2007-08-21 11:26:37 UTC
1. Umbridge, probably 2 get harry in trouble

2. I don't think he could-- Harry was using occulamency against him

3. They did


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