i am confused about harry potter 7 and how harry get the elder wand?

Question

if the elder wand is only passed on when the previous owner is defeated then how does harry get it from dumbledore

Answer 1

Good question, I can see how it would be confusing. The answer is this: Harry does not get the elder wand from Dumbledore. He gets it from Draco Malfoy. Here is the sequence of events:



1. Grindelwald steals the elder wand.

2. Dumbledore defeats Grindelwald, and the elder wand passes to him (Dumbledore).

3. Draco Malfoy (in book 6) DISARMS Dumbledore, thereby taking the elder wand from Dumbledore by force, unknowingly passing the elder wand power to himself (Draco).

4. In the Malfoy manor (Book 7), Harry Potter DISARMS Draco Malfoy, taking Draco's wand as his own, and thereby passing the elder wand power to himself (Harry).



Unfortunately for Voldemort, the bearer of the elder wand does NOT need to be killed in order to gain the power of the elder wand. It need only be taken by force (as suggested by both Ollivander and Dumbledore in Book 7). Voldemort assumed that because Snape had killed Dumbledore in Book 6, that the power of the wand passed to Snape, which is why Voldemort had Snape killed. However, as Harry learns when he speaks with Dumbledore in "the misty place", Snape did not disarm Dumbledore - DRACO disarmed Dumbledore, thus ensuring the power of the elder wand passed to Draco. So when Harry disarmed Draco in the Malfoy manor while rescuing Hermione, Ollivander, and Luna, etc. the power of the elder wand passed to Harry through Draco's wand. Draco's wand switched allegiance to Harry. Like Hermione always says - it's not the wand, it's the wizard behind it.



I hope this helps clear things up for you!

Answer 2

The Elder Wand need not be passed from the previous owner to the next. Physical possession of it is not necessary for the Elder Wand to know and recognize to whom it should bestow its allegiance. When Draco disarmed Dumbledore in Book 6, the wand's allegiance was transfered to him even if he didn't even touch it. So when Harry defeated Draco by getting his wand during their escape from Malfoys' Mansion, the Wand knew the transfer of ownership.



Voldemort didn't know how the Wand really works, or was not really that privy to what transpired in the tower. Even if he did know that Draco disarmed Dumbledore, I think that with his evil mind, the only defeat he recognize is killing. So he thought wrongfully that Snape was the owner of the Wand because he killed Dumbledore.



If Voldemort didn't desecrate Dumbledore's tomb to get the wand, Harry would still be recognized by the Wand as its owner, and if Harry died without being defeated, then its powers would have ended. Harry told Dumbledore he would put it back to where it was before, I take it to mean, Dumbledore's grave again. But I digress, sorry.

Answer 3

Harry won the Elder Wand from Draco. Draco defeats Dumbledore on top of the tower in book six, by disarming him. Draco, however doesn't claim the wand and after Snape kills Dumbledore, the Elder Wand is buried with him.



When Harry is facing Voldermort, with Draco's wand, The Elder Wand knows that Harry disarmed Draco and that he is its new owner, so it doesn't kill Harry as Voldermort hopes it would. Therefore Harry is able to block Voldermort's Avada Kedavra curse and rebound it back on him. We also find out in the book that Harry is the last surviving 'Peverelle', the family who created the Deathly Hallow's originally and that he is the 'TRUE' owner of the Elder Wand, the Invisibility Cloak and the Ressurection Stone anyway.



Hope this helps, have a star for your question.

Answer 4

Here's the chain, hopefully without TOO many spoilers ...



Dumbeldore got the Elder Wand from Grindelwald by defeating him back in 1945.



The next master of the Elder Wand was Draco Malfoy. At the end of Book 6, when Draco first encounters Dumbledore on top of the tower, Draco disarms Dumbledore, leaving him wandless. At that point, the wand recognizes Draco as its new master, even though Draco doesn't actually take possession of the wand (it's buried with Dumbledore).



In Book 7, when Harry & friends are escaping from Malfoy Manor, Harry takes Draco's own wand from him. The Elder Wand senses that its master Draco has been defeated (disarmed), so transfers its allegiance to Harry.



Voldemort's mistake was assuming that the owner had to be KILLED in order to for the Elder Wand to transfer its allegiance to a new master. That led him to assume that Snape was the master of the wand, and then to kill Snape in trying to take ownership of the wand. But it was actually Harry all along, ever since the escape from Malfoy Manor.

Answer 5

In the 6th Book, when Harry was frozen under the cloak on the night of Dumbledore's death, he heard "expelliarmus." Malfoy Disarmed Dumbledore. Since dumbledore never got his wand back (officially) the wand still belonged to malfoy. Although Voldemort thought that he was the true owner of the Elder Wand, he wasn't because he didn't officially take it from Dumbledore (Dumbledore wasn't the owner of the wand at the time of the burial) Harry disarmed malfoy back in the Malfoy Manor, (malfoy never got his wand back) giving the power of the elder wand to Harry, although Harry didn't know that until the night when he battled Voldemort. And that's why the Elder Wand couldn't kill Harry, because wands aren't used to kill the owner. I hope that made sense

Answer 6

Harry didn't get the wand from Dumbledore. Because Draco Malfoy disarmed Dumbledore at the end of Half-Blood Prince, the Elder Wand belonged to him, however when Harry was at Malfoy manor, he disarmed Draco and therefore the Elder Wand became his. This meant that Voldemort could not use the wand against it's true owner 'Harry'!!

For more info on this, please see chapter 36.

Hope this helps, it is quite tricky to follow, but Harry does explain the theory, in the above chapter.

Answer 7

Malfoy got the wand from Dumbledore when he disarmed him at the end of book 6. Harry defeated Malfoy by taking two wands from him at Malfoy Manor, so he won ownership of the elder wand.

Answer 8

okay, dumbledore got it from grindelard or whatever his name was, then malfoy defeated dumbledore because he disarmed him, but snape actually killed dumbledore so voldy though that snape was the rightful owner of the wand, but as i've sed malfoy disarmed dumbledore. then at the malfoys manor, harry defeated malfoy and was therefore the rightful owner of the wand. however, none of them had the wand because it had been buried with dumbledore. so then voldy went and blasted open dumbledores tomb, and then voldy killed snape coz he thought snape was the rightful owner of the wand. however he didnt know exactly wat had gone on at the top of the tower where dumbledore died, so it came as a shock to him when harry told him that actually harry was the rightful owner of the wand. so then when harry used his spell at the same time voldy tried to kill him, the elder wand because it was being used against its rightful owner and also because there was another spell coming its way rebounded back att voldy. tada!

Answer 9

Dumbledore, was defeated by snape, but it was Draco Malfoy who was supposed to defeate Dumbledore, so by defult when Snape killed Dumblefore, Draco Malfoy was the true owner of the elder wand, At the Malfoy house harry defeated Draco and took his wand, thus also becomming possesor of the elder wand....



But it was easy to see why dumbledore wasn't in possession any more he was killed in book 6.

Answer 10

malfoy disarmed dumbledore just before snape killed him malfoy won the wand without knowing when harry later won malfoys wand he won the eldar wand too and became the wands true master

Answer 11

from what i can remember from the book , dumbledore owned it , then snape killed him that night at the end of hbp , so then at the forbidden forest in deathly hallows , Snape was killed by voldemort because he wanted to own the wand , so he done that and voldemort was killed by harry at hogwarts during battle and harry ; decided to put it back in dumbledore's tomb.

Answer 12

I'm not telling. Some people haven't read the book yet.